DO NUCLEAR WEAPONS EXIST?
DO NUCLEAR WEAPONS EXIST?
Tobin Owl asks an important question about that BIG BOOM BYE BYE thing we're all supposed to believe in.
“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.”
– H.L. Mencken
Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery
None but ourselves can free our minds
Have no fear for atomic energy
'Cause none of them can stop the time
-Bob Marley
Hey Nevermorons,
One of the rabbit holes that I’ve had on the back burner, if you’ll excuse the mixed metaphor, is whether or not nuclear weapons actually exist.
When I see Cold War videos of kids crouching under desks now, I’m reminded of masks & social distancing.
If I sound crazy, which I probably do if you believe that “everyone believes in nuclear weapons”, I’d like to introduce you to Bert the Turtle.
In the light of what we now know about how behavioural psychology was weaponized during the COVID psy-op, I think it makes sense to question whether the real purpose of the Cold War nuke propaganda that was drilled into Baby Boomers was to condition them to be fearful, and thus “clamorous to be led to safety”.
Sure, you say, Cold War propaganda might have been a little much, but that doesn’t mean that nukes don’t exist. Obviously, nukes exist, because, ummm.. because Science!
Okay, calm down. I’m not saying that nukes don’t exist. All I’m saying is that I have questions. Nevermore does not take existence on the existence or non-existence of nuclear weapons.
You may not be aware that there is a small movement of people who are totally convinced that nuclear weapons don’t exist, and they seem to be gaining ground.
My Croatian friend is one of them. I probably wouldn’t put much stock in what he says were it not that he’s the first guy I ever met who was completely convinced that viruses don’t exist.
I thought he was crazy, but started paying attention to the debate, and after seeing the utter failure of the pro-virus crowd to present proof for the existence of viruses, I have to admit that the burden of proof is on the “viruses-exist” crowd.
(Fun fact - do you know that Denis Rancourt, the greatest scientist in the world, is no longer convinced that viruses exist? I wrote him to ask him to take the pro-virus side in a debate, but he declined, saying that the existence of viruses is “an active research topic” for him.)
Okay, back to nukes.
Before you get all excited and start accusing me of atrocity-denial, let me get one thing out of the way - the bombings of Nagasaki and Hiroshimi were real; no one denies that.
The anti-nuke people seem to believe that these bombings were a combination of conventional explosives and chemical weapons.
If they’re anything like the “viruses-don’t-exist” crowd, though, they probably hold a wide range of opinions.
Also, no one is saying that nuclear power doesn’t exist. It obviously does. France’s electric grid is pretty much nothing but nukes. Nuke skeptics differentiate between nuclear power and nuclear weapons.
Anyway, my Croatian friend has been trying convince me that nuclear weapons don’t exist for some time now.
I’m skeptical, and there’s only so much time I’m willing to devote to this. I have a high school stoner’s level of scientific knowledge, and to honest all this hoopla about invisible this and invisible that makes my head swim. It really annoys me that way more people believes in viruses than believe in leprechauns, which are way more fun to believe in.
If we create reality with our beliefs, doesn’t it stand to reason that the world would be better if we believed in leprechauns instead of nuclear weapons?
Let’s face it - no one on Earth has ever seen a virus, but tons of people have seen leprechauns. But we’re all supposed to believe in the former, and not the latter, “Because Science”.
Okay, deep breath.
Now that we’re in WWIII, the existence/non-existence of nuclear weapons is a very important question.
If you guys didn’t know, Kim Jong-un has a big honking donkey dong of a nuke, or at least that’s what we’re supposed to believe based on this epic North Korean propaganda video.
Given the fact that this video came out not that long after Trump called Kim Jong-Un “Little Rocket Man”, I have a tough time taking all this “BIG BOOM BYE BYE” stuff seriously.
So I raised the question on Notes, and seems like quite a few people are thinking along similar lines to me.
If you ask me, “Because Science” is no longer a good enough reason to believe ANYTHING in 2023.
I have seen zero proof for the existence of nuclear weapons, and all I’m saying is that I have questions.
As H.L. Mencken said:
“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.”
Anyway, so I asked my friend Tobin Owl to write something on the subject.
He is relatively new to nuke skepticism, but he is a very fastidious researcher who specializes in deep dives on controversial subjects.
He is a straight-up virus-denier, and he is willing to debate anyone on that subject, by the way. Any takers?
He is much more circumspect on the question of whether nuclear weapons exist. This article is intended to start a conversation, not to tell anyone what to believe.
Really, part of my motivation is selfish - I just want to give my critics a new reason to call me a denialist.
“Nuke-denier” has a nice ring to it, doesn’t it?
Let’s be real - they lied to us about COVID, they lied to us about AIDS, they lied to us about 9/11, they lied to us about Saddam having WMDs, they lied to us about ISIS, they lied to us about Assad using chemical weapons in Syria, and a gazillion other things.
They lie about everything all the time. Are you really going to tell me that they wouldn’t lie about nukes? Are you really going to tell me this is the one time that the thing that they want us to be afraid of is super scary and dangerous?
Why? Because Science? Because some supposedly smart people who believe in the Big Bang said so? Because a cartoon turtle told your mommy and daddy that nukes are scary back when people still trusted the government?
Seriously, my best argument against nukes is Bert the Turtle. Does this video make you want to “follow the science”?
Anyway, this is an appeal to our readers. I’d like to ask for some help figuring out how to get to the bottom of this.
I promise to maintain an open mind. Obviously, I’d prefer it if nuclear weapons didn’t exist (who wouldn’t?), but I’ll follow where the best evidence leads.
Below is a list of recommended resources for investigating the claim that NUCLEAR WEAPONS DON’T EXIST.
RESOURCES:
NUCLEAR WEAPONS ARE A HOAX -
ia804501.us.archive.org/25/items/death-…
HIROSHIMA REVISITED
fortheloveoftruth.co.uk/wp-content/uplo…
THE ATOMIC BOMB WAS A HOAX
theunexpectedcosmology.com/wp-content/u…
NUCLEAR WEAPONS DON’T EXIST
odysee.com/NUCLEAR-WEAPONS-DONT-EXIST-T…
HAPPY RESEARCHING, FOLKS!
Without further ado, I present Tobin’s article on the question of nuclear weapons, which I hope will be the first of several.
Enjoy!
-Crow Qu’appelle
Is nuclear war a possibility?
by TOBIN OWL - NOV 16, 2023
Given the extreme events in Ukraine and now in Israel with nations lining up on either side, one question in the back of a lot of people’s minds is whether things could escalate into a nuclear war. Without going into details about all the countries involved and their positions, instead I’m going to step out on some very shaky ground.
Recently some very strange things have been brought to my attention via my friend Crow Qu’appelle. Very strange things that happened in New Mexico when the U.S. was in a race to beat Germany in developing the first nuclear weapons of mass destruction.
At this point, I haven’t looked into all this thoroughly and I don’t have a firm position, however I do think the question about what really went on is worth asking, especially seeing as how we have been deceived about so many other things by the military-industrial-pharma-science-government-intelligence-media complex.
For example, take the heavy firebombing of Tokyo in 1945. Did you ever hear about that? I hadn’t. Here’s Encyclopedia Britannica:
Bombing of Tokyo, (March 9–10, 1945), firebombing raid (codenamed “Operation Meetinghouse”) by the United States on the capital of Japan during the final stages of World War II, often cited as one of the most destructive acts of war in history, more destructive than the bombing of Dresden, Hiroshima, or Nagasaki. Although the precise death toll is unknown, conservative estimates suggest that the firestorm caused by incendiary bombs killed at least 80,000 people, and likely more than 100,000, in a single night; some one million people were left homeless. The Japanese later called this the “Night of the Black Snow.”
Horrific! And we never hear about it even though Hiroshima and Nagasaki have become household words throughout the world? Why is that?
Let’s dig a little deeper. Here’s what Alex Wellerstein, historian of science and nuclear weapons has to say:
Before the dropping of the atomic bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, there was the burning of Tokyo. Operation Meetinghouse, the early March 1945 raid on Tokyo that involved over 330 B-29s dropping incendiary bombs from low-altitude at night, killed roughly 100,000 people, and may have injured and made homeless an order of magnitude more.
Wellerstien further points out:
You can’t see the atomic bombings in isolation. The practice of targeting civilian areas with massively destructive aerial bombing had already been done before.
Gee, is that reminiscent of, oh I dunno … Gaza today?
And to some, the atomic bombs were just a refinement of the art of area bombing — a more efficient means to accomplish the same ends. […]
The goals were similar, though the people planning the atomic bombs emphasized the raw terror that they hoped such a spectacle would inspire.
That bit about “raw terror” … maybe that’s what the spectacle of Hiroshima and Nagasaki was all about.
Okay, so if we are going to be skeptical (like any true scientist or investigator should be about anything), then we might ask, well, how does one distinguish between a firebombed city and one destroyed by a nuclear bomb?
Compare these photos graciously provided by our nuclear weapons historian:
The ruins of 1945: Tokyo, left, and Hiroshima, right.
I’m no expert, but I don’t notice an immediate distinction apart from that the area of Tokyo in the photo appears to have had more multi-storied buildings. What do you see?
So what about the Trinity tests? Was there anything strange about that? Did you know there’s footage of a so-called “parallel test” (or tests?) involving tons of TNT brought in by the semi-truckload and carefully stacked into a high pile?
Ever read Guy Dubord’s The Society of the Spectacle?
If your interest is piqued, take a look the following video:
The video above is 3 hours long. It appears to be a compilation of several documentaries, including parts of the first eerily entrancing documentary I watched on Odyssey (apparently removed from YouTube).
Again, I haven’t come to any clear conclusions so far. I’ll write on this -again if I find more compelling evidence either for or against the official narrative.
In the meantime, let me know your thoughts.
Tobin Owl is an independent researcher/writer. Over the past three years he’s conducted in-depth investigation focusing on the history of modern medicine, medical science, geopolitical conspiracy and the environment. Articles written prior to his move to Substack are found on his website Cry For The Earth
Can I suggest that whether nukes exist isn't necessarily a pressing question? I mean if they want to destroy you, everyone and everything in the area, the land, all of it - look at Dresden. No nukes required. I'm failing to see a lot of difference between that and Hiroshima in terms of what happened to people. Have I missed something here?
As for teaching people to live in fear - it wasn't nukes. It wasn't covid, either, at least not in the same way (it was the government that scared the hell out of me then - yes, I'm Canadian, but this isn't the only place where we discovered we have no rights!)
Weirdly, I was talking about this on another stack. I can't time it precisely, I'd guess maybe 25 years ago? If you're younger you might remember when. Media and experts were filling people's heads with so many horror stories. Your children are not safe! You must protect them! Letting children free range will kill them, one way or another. And that's when people turned into helicopter parents. Kids didn't have a moment alone. Every activity was planned and chaperoned. For their safety, of course.
Untold damage was done.
But is that why so many people fell into line and did what they were told so easily when covid hit? Or because climate change?
Sorry for the wild off-topic here.
While I have never seen a nuclear weapon, like I've never seen a blue ringed octopus, I would believe in both of those things. I feel that there are a lot of complex things that people would prefer not to exist.
I think that denial is comforting because it has an easy answer.
Does the poison of a blue ringed octopus need to be seen to be deadly?
I didn't die last night because of a missile strike on my apartment block. I used to think that people couldn't die in their sleep. Once I realised that people could just go to sleep one night and never wake up I also realised that the scale of simultaneous and shocking events on Earth was likely to be a lot more terrifying and unfair than I had previously imagined.