If you look at trends in dating / intimacy among younger people, Lily is an anomaly not a reflection of current habits. I purposely avoided her story in the news cycle because I think it’s one of those one-off events that generates the worst kind of discourse. That’s not to say that young people *dont also* want to be influencers, but I can see them vying for it in more wholesome ways Mr. Beast-style (I don’t think he’s “wholesome” at all, just that his content isn’t violent, sexualized, etc. it’s just exploitative ;))
I tend to agree with you... I don't think that Lily Phillips will inspire a ton of even-more-extreme copycats... I think she's an extreme outlier in (apparently) wanting to do such a thing.
I don't doubt that there are more women out there fantasizing about gang-bangs than would ever admit it... but most women are probably quite content to leave such things in the realm of fantasy. For those who actually want to act on their fantasies, a handful of guys is probably plenty.
Also, just in terms of logistics - where is a girl going to find 5 separate guys that she's attracted to who all want to indulge her fantasy at the same time? Seems like the stars would have to align just right in order for that to happen.
Lily Phillips was willing to have sex with dozens of men she wasn't attracted to, but I'm guessing that thought is extremely unappealing to 99.9% of women. Most women like to have sex with men they're attracted to...
I guess time will tell, though. The desire for fame and money are powerful motivators for many. Plus, Lily Phillips is proof there are extreme nymphos out there. Who knows how many?
Why did Lily Phillips need $2M? Because we live under a system in which your right to live with a roof over your head is controlled by the Rothschilds banking dynasty. Had Lily grown up in the Goddess societies of the entire BCE, she would have been part of a matrilineal and matrifocal culture. Perhaps she would have done the same but it's unlikely to have started a trend, if you're surrounded by other women who own the land, the buildings, the livestock and the food production. They would likely say, "Okay, now get back to work. There are dishes to be washed."
Well, her motivation isn't entirely clear. Did you watch the documentary? She doesn't seem overly obsessed with money or with attention... She seems to have actually wanted to do this. Who knows how many people out there like her there are?
Your premise that patriarchs care about their daughters doesn't hold up to reality. They abuse them, rape them, pimp them, exploit them. Daughters are assets to patriarchs, often not even mentioned in the list of possessions in the Bible. Look at Robert Maxwell and his treatment of Ghislaine and her sisters. If Lily's dad is a true patriarch, he'd be demanding his cut of the money.
This is pretty over the top, if you ask me. I've got to be honest. I'm kind of sick of the "All Men are Rapists", "all men are abusers" stuff. A hell of a lot of men do their best for their families. And when things go sideways it's not always the man's fault.
Robert Maxwell is not representative of the male sex anymore than Ghislaine is representative of the female sex.
You were talking about patriarchs, Crow, not all men. Patriarch, as you know of course, means male archons or rulers over others. You and I agree that no one should be a ruler over others. I would add except with a mother and child, where you need to make and enforce the rules to give them power over themselves as an adult. The child still has sovereignty over their body, mind and soul, always.
You're putting words into my mouth and I don't know why. Your statement was that Lily Philips was proof that patriarchy doesn't exist, yes? Then you conflated your own feeling that you'd never allow a daughter of yours to have sex with 100 men in a day, and so Lily's dad must feel the same way but have no power over her. You're thinking like a dad, not a patriarch.
Please show where I've said all men are rapists and abusers, Crow. That sure doesn't sound like something I'd say.
Lily is a reflection of the society she lives in. She seeks love and attention like every human who has a heart and soul. Yea maybe some out there are short on the both but generally speaking anyhow.
Her world is reduced to clicks and numbers.
Her decision to reduce sex to a series of repetitive physical acts in order to boost the number, then post then become another 10 second sound bite or string of words
"the chick that f....k..D 100"
Feminism would maybe say .....she as "sex industry worker"
I'd say she's a shallow image of the self that could be far greater and needs to wake up to her beauty that isn't physical, doesn't rely on click bait, money, fame or external attention.
Life ought to offer more than owning a Porsche and a Ombre Birkin handbag.
Good take. I think you're probably right. What from I gather, people who do sex work do indeed end up paying with a part of themselves... they begin to see the most intimate thing they can offer of themselves as a commodity, and of thinking of that as that something in terms of its market value... which makes having a deep relationship more difficult.
I don't know how widespread this feeling is, but I know some people who have engaged in sex work end up feeling this way.
I don't think too many mothers who have done sex work would want their daughters doing it... that ought to tell you something.
Love and affection is something other than sexual intercourse. The main purpose of sexual intercourse from my perspective is for procreation of another god like form. If you use sexual self gratification, it is over in 2 minutes and the love and affection just went out the window. We seem to be shaping into the bad seeds created by the marketing demons. ...Kman, Digileak World
Recommend the book, Cupid's Poisoned Arrow: From Habit to Harmony in Sexual Relationships by Marnia Robinson (Author), Douglas Wile Ph.D. (Foreword)
Lilly Phillips may have 2 million dollars, but I wouldn't touch her if she were the last woman on earth. No sane man wants a woman that's second-third-a hundred hand. I mean she's been used more times than a dirty toilet in NYC.
If you look at trends in dating / intimacy among younger people, Lily is an anomaly not a reflection of current habits. I purposely avoided her story in the news cycle because I think it’s one of those one-off events that generates the worst kind of discourse. That’s not to say that young people *dont also* want to be influencers, but I can see them vying for it in more wholesome ways Mr. Beast-style (I don’t think he’s “wholesome” at all, just that his content isn’t violent, sexualized, etc. it’s just exploitative ;))
I tend to agree with you... I don't think that Lily Phillips will inspire a ton of even-more-extreme copycats... I think she's an extreme outlier in (apparently) wanting to do such a thing.
I don't doubt that there are more women out there fantasizing about gang-bangs than would ever admit it... but most women are probably quite content to leave such things in the realm of fantasy. For those who actually want to act on their fantasies, a handful of guys is probably plenty.
Also, just in terms of logistics - where is a girl going to find 5 separate guys that she's attracted to who all want to indulge her fantasy at the same time? Seems like the stars would have to align just right in order for that to happen.
Lily Phillips was willing to have sex with dozens of men she wasn't attracted to, but I'm guessing that thought is extremely unappealing to 99.9% of women. Most women like to have sex with men they're attracted to...
I guess time will tell, though. The desire for fame and money are powerful motivators for many. Plus, Lily Phillips is proof there are extreme nymphos out there. Who knows how many?
Why did Lily Phillips need $2M? Because we live under a system in which your right to live with a roof over your head is controlled by the Rothschilds banking dynasty. Had Lily grown up in the Goddess societies of the entire BCE, she would have been part of a matrilineal and matrifocal culture. Perhaps she would have done the same but it's unlikely to have started a trend, if you're surrounded by other women who own the land, the buildings, the livestock and the food production. They would likely say, "Okay, now get back to work. There are dishes to be washed."
Well, her motivation isn't entirely clear. Did you watch the documentary? She doesn't seem overly obsessed with money or with attention... She seems to have actually wanted to do this. Who knows how many people out there like her there are?
Your premise that patriarchs care about their daughters doesn't hold up to reality. They abuse them, rape them, pimp them, exploit them. Daughters are assets to patriarchs, often not even mentioned in the list of possessions in the Bible. Look at Robert Maxwell and his treatment of Ghislaine and her sisters. If Lily's dad is a true patriarch, he'd be demanding his cut of the money.
This is pretty over the top, if you ask me. I've got to be honest. I'm kind of sick of the "All Men are Rapists", "all men are abusers" stuff. A hell of a lot of men do their best for their families. And when things go sideways it's not always the man's fault.
Robert Maxwell is not representative of the male sex anymore than Ghislaine is representative of the female sex.
You were talking about patriarchs, Crow, not all men. Patriarch, as you know of course, means male archons or rulers over others. You and I agree that no one should be a ruler over others. I would add except with a mother and child, where you need to make and enforce the rules to give them power over themselves as an adult. The child still has sovereignty over their body, mind and soul, always.
You're putting words into my mouth and I don't know why. Your statement was that Lily Philips was proof that patriarchy doesn't exist, yes? Then you conflated your own feeling that you'd never allow a daughter of yours to have sex with 100 men in a day, and so Lily's dad must feel the same way but have no power over her. You're thinking like a dad, not a patriarch.
Please show where I've said all men are rapists and abusers, Crow. That sure doesn't sound like something I'd say.
Lily is a reflection of the society she lives in. She seeks love and attention like every human who has a heart and soul. Yea maybe some out there are short on the both but generally speaking anyhow.
Her world is reduced to clicks and numbers.
Her decision to reduce sex to a series of repetitive physical acts in order to boost the number, then post then become another 10 second sound bite or string of words
"the chick that f....k..D 100"
Feminism would maybe say .....she as "sex industry worker"
I'd say she's a shallow image of the self that could be far greater and needs to wake up to her beauty that isn't physical, doesn't rely on click bait, money, fame or external attention.
Life ought to offer more than owning a Porsche and a Ombre Birkin handbag.
Good take. I think you're probably right. What from I gather, people who do sex work do indeed end up paying with a part of themselves... they begin to see the most intimate thing they can offer of themselves as a commodity, and of thinking of that as that something in terms of its market value... which makes having a deep relationship more difficult.
I don't know how widespread this feeling is, but I know some people who have engaged in sex work end up feeling this way.
I don't think too many mothers who have done sex work would want their daughters doing it... that ought to tell you something.
Love and affection is something other than sexual intercourse. The main purpose of sexual intercourse from my perspective is for procreation of another god like form. If you use sexual self gratification, it is over in 2 minutes and the love and affection just went out the window. We seem to be shaping into the bad seeds created by the marketing demons. ...Kman, Digileak World
Recommend the book, Cupid's Poisoned Arrow: From Habit to Harmony in Sexual Relationships by Marnia Robinson (Author), Douglas Wile Ph.D. (Foreword)
Lilly Phillips may have 2 million dollars, but I wouldn't touch her if she were the last woman on earth. No sane man wants a woman that's second-third-a hundred hand. I mean she's been used more times than a dirty toilet in NYC.
The problem isn’t Lily Philips per ce rather the internet’s ability to display the worst of humanity everywhere all the time
Per se even
What kind of patriarch looks at internet porn himself?